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:'''<walterbender>''' quorum call...
:* walterbender:is present
:* satellit_:listening
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Hiya Hiya
:'''<walterbender>''' hi adam
:hi tom
:bernie, cjb , mchua, tomeu ???
:bernie told /me he'd be here today:)
:'''<tomeu>''' hi all
:* tomeu:still in pootle land
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: thank you for taking this on...
:tomeu: any light at the end of the tunnel?
:'''<tomeu>''' yes, I think we are close now
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' what's the pootle issue?
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: it has been neglected of late and many commits had not been pushed in either direction
:CanoeBerry: so the i18n for this release is a bit of a mess
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Sayamindu's been enjoying too much tea at the Media Lab 4pm's Friday, we know where to find him if nec ;)
:Folks may want to grab the MP3 later today for this hourlong show on Teach for America I just listened to here:
:http://www.onpointradio.org/2010/09/wendy-kopp
:Sadly didn't catch all the details, but Teach for America is shaking up US campuses..
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: university campuses???
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Yes.
:Undergrads are surging in their applications to ToA like never before.. the dream to invest love into primary schools is one thing that's working in this country:)
:*TfA i meant
:'''<walterbender>''' how does this impact university??? it is a post-grad program?
:I could see it impacting ed schools...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' I gather over 10% of MIT undergrad seniors applied to TfA this spring.
:That shakes up the dialogue on campuses like MIT.
:'''<cjb>''' Hi, I'm here
:Bernie might be busy because his visa finally came through:)
:tomeu: awesome, thank you very much for looking at Pootle!
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb: great news about the visa... just yesterday he didn't think it was going to happen.
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' VISA!
:'''<walterbender>''' so we have a quorum... we should begin.
:#start-meeting
:I don't have a lot to discuss today except the election and the release...
:but I wanted to meet because I am going to be traveling so much this month... need to grab whatever opportunities we can.
:#topic SLOB election
:I can double-check with Luke, but I think he has been tracking membership OK.
:I am disappointed that our ranks have not been swelled by teachers, alas.
:but I am more concerned about a lack of official candidates... right now, we only have 1 person who has contacted me to say that they are definitely running: SMParrish
:which is great that he is running, but we have 3 positions to fill
:I will try to convince Rosamel to officially announce... she is great and has had a lot of enthusiastic endorsements.
:but I also want to pin down a few more...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' i put my name here:
:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2010-2011-candidates
:'''<cjb>''' walterbender: I'm in two minds about letting someone else have a turn, but I'm certainly willing if we end up short on candidates
:'''<walterbender>''' (hey ... my #start-meeting didn't start:( )
:#startmeeting
:'''<sugaroid>''' Meeting started Tue Sep 28 15:20:17 2010 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
:Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting
:'''<meeting>''' Meeting started at 11:20 UTC. The chair is walterbender.
:Commands Available: #TOPIC, #IDEA, #ACTION, #AGREED, #LINK
:'''<walterbender>''' #action walter is post backlog to the official log since #start-meeting is not an alias for #startmeeting:(
:CanoeBerry: glad to hear you are running again!!!
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' sorry if i misunderstood the process.
:i followed last year's routine:)
:'''<walterbender>''' I added SMParrish too.. and I will add a link from the wiki home page...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Is the Rosamel possiblity real?
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: I hope so... I'll try to contact her... I think the biggest obstacle is she is not very comfortable with English.
:didn't we have an auto-translation chat going at one point in this channel??
:'''<cjb>''' yeah, "transbot"
:'''<walterbender>''' maybe that is enough to get her over the bump in the road...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Bert's comment is eerily accurate -- English is the de facto Esperanto of global organizing..
:'''<walterbender>''' I agree...
:and the urban legend is that more people speak Klingon from StarTrek than Esperanto:)
:'''<tomeu>''' what about reaching out to one of the english-speaking teachers we know?
:gerald, tony, who else?
:'''<walterbender>''' OK. I'll do one more call for candidates and I'll reach out to a few more folks (Gerald A., for example).
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' What is our hard deadline Fri Oct 1?
:'''<walterbender>''' Well, I think we could slip to Monday, but we should respect the process we outlined.
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Apparently 5PM Fri Oct 1 according to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members ?
:'''<walterbender>''' Alas, I am traveling the next 3 days (to OWF in Paris)
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' 5PM EDT..
:'''<walterbender>''' #action walter will make one more call for candidates before heading to the airport
:* walterbender:hopes to be able to contact Sean while in Paris
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' walterbender: does your manic jetset life include SF?:)
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: I will know soon...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Cool!
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: I have a trip to Costa Rica next week and then Paraguay before SF:)
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Right.
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: and maybe Mexico before... definitely afterward...
:and it goes on and on... crazy fall
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Special Request to ALL for SF Topics -- please add core priorities here:
:http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_SanFranciscoBayArea/OLPCSF_Community_Summit_2010#Schedule_of_sessions
:Then the OLPC-SF organizers themselves can piece this together into a schedule!
:'''<walterbender>''' seems like an exciting weekend
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' And pre-wkd too.
:And post-wkd party:)
:'''<walterbender>''' we also have talked about the need for a Sugar Camp for developers soon... to discuss Python and GNOME 3.0
:'''<cjb>''' walterbender: Ah, deadline coming up -- okay, please add me as a candidate:)
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb: thank you.
:'''<cjb>''' If you don't mind, I might decide to stand aside later if we have a good field of other candidates.
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Done: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2010-2011-candidates
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb: always an option.
:shall we switch topics?
:I'd like to just touch on 0.90 to make sure we all know where we are at...
:#topic 0.90
:We had a slight glitch with Pootle, but it seems that Tomeu (with input from cjl and others) has managed to get things working again...
:and we have a candidate to replace/augment Sayamindu, who is being consumed by school
:Erikos has already gotten a good start on the release notes: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Notes
:all in all, despite the late start, I think it is a significant release
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' other topics?
:'''<walterbender>''' no comments from the peanut gallery?
:* satellit_:Soas status: 3 bugs;2339;2351;2355 + no read but works ( latest Nightly Compose)
:'''<walterbender>''' let me propose a motion:
:We, the SLOB, acknowledge and praise the efforts of the release team for bringing us 0.90!!
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Can we spell out the Release Team's contributors?
:* walterbender:is a bit worried abut marketing... I just did one interview, but we don't have Sean's blitz lined up...
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: we can mention its leader, erikos... the membership is a bit fuzzy... tomeu and alsroot of course... any many contributions from the community
:* walterbender:has nothing else today... anyone else?
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Great +1 if we want to vote!
:'''<cjb>''' seconded, +1:)
:'''<walterbender>''' OK... let's vote...
:* walterbender:+1
:'''<tomeu>''' would be good if people wanted to add themselves to the teams they belong to in the wiki
:this is a bit ridiculous: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Contacts
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' tomeu: care to vote?
:'''<tomeu>''' +1, but I would prefer to see more people joining the team:)
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: I never new there was a list at all... perhaps it should be linked to from the Join link...
:'''<tomeu>''' walterbender: all teams have a list
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Motion Carries.
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: but no team has a list that is easy to find...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' walterbender: speaking of teambuilding, do you have a favorite bio/pic if you will participate in SF Summit Oct 22-24 in person or remotely?
:'''<tomeu>''' walterbender: the team bar has a Contacts link
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' walterbender: You should post that here: http://olpcsf.org/CommunitySummit2010/people.php
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: I assumed that was how to contact the team, not the member's list...
:'''<tomeu>''' walterbender: let's improve it then:)
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: will try to...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Thx, email that to me today if poss.
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: agreed... was just thinking about the specifics.
:'''<tomeu>''' but well, I don't think the community has given much importance to the teams structure anyway
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' I have to run at Noon sharp here, anything else?
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: probably not, in general... but in a few specific cases, it has been important...
:CanoeBerry: I think we are done for today...
:thanks all for attending.
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Cheerio
:'''<walterbender>''' FYI, I emailed Rosamel (in broken Spanish)
:#endmeeting
:'''<sugaroid>''' Meeting ended Tue Sep 28 16:00:25 2010 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4)
:Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2010-09-28T15:20:17.html
:Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2010-09-28T15:20:17
:'''<meeting>''' Meeting finished at 12:01.
:Logs available at http://me.etin.gs/sugar-meeting/sugar-meeting.log.20100928_1120.html
:* walterbender:is present
:* satellit_:listening
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Hiya Hiya
:'''<walterbender>''' hi adam
:hi tom
:bernie, cjb , mchua, tomeu ???
:bernie told /me he'd be here today:)
:'''<tomeu>''' hi all
:* tomeu:still in pootle land
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: thank you for taking this on...
:tomeu: any light at the end of the tunnel?
:'''<tomeu>''' yes, I think we are close now
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' what's the pootle issue?
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: it has been neglected of late and many commits had not been pushed in either direction
:CanoeBerry: so the i18n for this release is a bit of a mess
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Sayamindu's been enjoying too much tea at the Media Lab 4pm's Friday, we know where to find him if nec ;)
:Folks may want to grab the MP3 later today for this hourlong show on Teach for America I just listened to here:
:http://www.onpointradio.org/2010/09/wendy-kopp
:Sadly didn't catch all the details, but Teach for America is shaking up US campuses..
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: university campuses???
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Yes.
:Undergrads are surging in their applications to ToA like never before.. the dream to invest love into primary schools is one thing that's working in this country:)
:*TfA i meant
:'''<walterbender>''' how does this impact university??? it is a post-grad program?
:I could see it impacting ed schools...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' I gather over 10% of MIT undergrad seniors applied to TfA this spring.
:That shakes up the dialogue on campuses like MIT.
:'''<cjb>''' Hi, I'm here
:Bernie might be busy because his visa finally came through:)
:tomeu: awesome, thank you very much for looking at Pootle!
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb: great news about the visa... just yesterday he didn't think it was going to happen.
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' VISA!
:'''<walterbender>''' so we have a quorum... we should begin.
:#start-meeting
:I don't have a lot to discuss today except the election and the release...
:but I wanted to meet because I am going to be traveling so much this month... need to grab whatever opportunities we can.
:#topic SLOB election
:I can double-check with Luke, but I think he has been tracking membership OK.
:I am disappointed that our ranks have not been swelled by teachers, alas.
:but I am more concerned about a lack of official candidates... right now, we only have 1 person who has contacted me to say that they are definitely running: SMParrish
:which is great that he is running, but we have 3 positions to fill
:I will try to convince Rosamel to officially announce... she is great and has had a lot of enthusiastic endorsements.
:but I also want to pin down a few more...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' i put my name here:
:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2010-2011-candidates
:'''<cjb>''' walterbender: I'm in two minds about letting someone else have a turn, but I'm certainly willing if we end up short on candidates
:'''<walterbender>''' (hey ... my #start-meeting didn't start:( )
:#startmeeting
:'''<sugaroid>''' Meeting started Tue Sep 28 15:20:17 2010 UTC. The chair is walterbender. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
:Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #endmeeting
:'''<meeting>''' Meeting started at 11:20 UTC. The chair is walterbender.
:Commands Available: #TOPIC, #IDEA, #ACTION, #AGREED, #LINK
:'''<walterbender>''' #action walter is post backlog to the official log since #start-meeting is not an alias for #startmeeting:(
:CanoeBerry: glad to hear you are running again!!!
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' sorry if i misunderstood the process.
:i followed last year's routine:)
:'''<walterbender>''' I added SMParrish too.. and I will add a link from the wiki home page...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Is the Rosamel possiblity real?
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: I hope so... I'll try to contact her... I think the biggest obstacle is she is not very comfortable with English.
:didn't we have an auto-translation chat going at one point in this channel??
:'''<cjb>''' yeah, "transbot"
:'''<walterbender>''' maybe that is enough to get her over the bump in the road...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Bert's comment is eerily accurate -- English is the de facto Esperanto of global organizing..
:'''<walterbender>''' I agree...
:and the urban legend is that more people speak Klingon from StarTrek than Esperanto:)
:'''<tomeu>''' what about reaching out to one of the english-speaking teachers we know?
:gerald, tony, who else?
:'''<walterbender>''' OK. I'll do one more call for candidates and I'll reach out to a few more folks (Gerald A., for example).
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' What is our hard deadline Fri Oct 1?
:'''<walterbender>''' Well, I think we could slip to Monday, but we should respect the process we outlined.
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Apparently 5PM Fri Oct 1 according to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members ?
:'''<walterbender>''' Alas, I am traveling the next 3 days (to OWF in Paris)
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' 5PM EDT..
:'''<walterbender>''' #action walter will make one more call for candidates before heading to the airport
:* walterbender:hopes to be able to contact Sean while in Paris
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' walterbender: does your manic jetset life include SF?:)
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: I will know soon...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Cool!
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: I have a trip to Costa Rica next week and then Paraguay before SF:)
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Right.
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: and maybe Mexico before... definitely afterward...
:and it goes on and on... crazy fall
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Special Request to ALL for SF Topics -- please add core priorities here:
:http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_SanFranciscoBayArea/OLPCSF_Community_Summit_2010#Schedule_of_sessions
:Then the OLPC-SF organizers themselves can piece this together into a schedule!
:'''<walterbender>''' seems like an exciting weekend
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' And pre-wkd too.
:And post-wkd party:)
:'''<walterbender>''' we also have talked about the need for a Sugar Camp for developers soon... to discuss Python and GNOME 3.0
:'''<cjb>''' walterbender: Ah, deadline coming up -- okay, please add me as a candidate:)
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb: thank you.
:'''<cjb>''' If you don't mind, I might decide to stand aside later if we have a good field of other candidates.
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Done: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2010-2011-candidates
:'''<walterbender>''' cjb: always an option.
:shall we switch topics?
:I'd like to just touch on 0.90 to make sure we all know where we are at...
:#topic 0.90
:We had a slight glitch with Pootle, but it seems that Tomeu (with input from cjl and others) has managed to get things working again...
:and we have a candidate to replace/augment Sayamindu, who is being consumed by school
:Erikos has already gotten a good start on the release notes: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Notes
:all in all, despite the late start, I think it is a significant release
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' other topics?
:'''<walterbender>''' no comments from the peanut gallery?
:* satellit_:Soas status: 3 bugs;2339;2351;2355 + no read but works ( latest Nightly Compose)
:'''<walterbender>''' let me propose a motion:
:We, the SLOB, acknowledge and praise the efforts of the release team for bringing us 0.90!!
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Can we spell out the Release Team's contributors?
:* walterbender:is a bit worried abut marketing... I just did one interview, but we don't have Sean's blitz lined up...
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: we can mention its leader, erikos... the membership is a bit fuzzy... tomeu and alsroot of course... any many contributions from the community
:* walterbender:has nothing else today... anyone else?
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Great +1 if we want to vote!
:'''<cjb>''' seconded, +1:)
:'''<walterbender>''' OK... let's vote...
:* walterbender:+1
:'''<tomeu>''' would be good if people wanted to add themselves to the teams they belong to in the wiki
:this is a bit ridiculous: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Contacts
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' tomeu: care to vote?
:'''<tomeu>''' +1, but I would prefer to see more people joining the team:)
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: I never new there was a list at all... perhaps it should be linked to from the Join link...
:'''<tomeu>''' walterbender: all teams have a list
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Motion Carries.
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: but no team has a list that is easy to find...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' walterbender: speaking of teambuilding, do you have a favorite bio/pic if you will participate in SF Summit Oct 22-24 in person or remotely?
:'''<tomeu>''' walterbender: the team bar has a Contacts link
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' walterbender: You should post that here: http://olpcsf.org/CommunitySummit2010/people.php
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: I assumed that was how to contact the team, not the member's list...
:'''<tomeu>''' walterbender: let's improve it then:)
:'''<walterbender>''' CanoeBerry: will try to...
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Thx, email that to me today if poss.
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: agreed... was just thinking about the specifics.
:'''<tomeu>''' but well, I don't think the community has given much importance to the teams structure anyway
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' I have to run at Noon sharp here, anything else?
:'''<walterbender>''' tomeu: probably not, in general... but in a few specific cases, it has been important...
:CanoeBerry: I think we are done for today...
:thanks all for attending.
:'''<CanoeBerry>''' Cheerio
:'''<walterbender>''' FYI, I emailed Rosamel (in broken Spanish)
:#endmeeting
:'''<sugaroid>''' Meeting ended Tue Sep 28 16:00:25 2010 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. (v 0.1.4)
:Minutes: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2010-09-28T15:20:17.html
:Log: http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2010-09-28T15:20:17
:'''<meeting>''' Meeting finished at 12:01.
:Logs available at http://me.etin.gs/sugar-meeting/sugar-meeting.log.20100928_1120.html