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===Books discussing OSS projects===
 
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:I've moved some of the details to subpages. --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 16:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 
:I've moved some of the details to subpages. --[[User:Walter|Walter]] 16:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
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== Decision Panels ==
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This seems to be the most controversial topic:
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'''One the one hand:'''
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As the instigator of this Decision Panel business, I should attempt to
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clarify the idea.  My goal is to make serving on the Oversight Board as
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unappealing as possible.  Ideally, it should be _difficult_ to find seven
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people willing to serve on the Oversight Board.  As such, the document
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specifies that members of the Oversight Board _cannot_ decide
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controversial issues.  It also specifies that members of the Oversight
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Board _must_ act as secretaries, taking minutes for every meeting of every
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committee.  Oversight Board members are also prohibited from voting in any
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of the committee meetings, even though they must attend to take minutes
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(that's been part of the draft from the beginning).  I hope this will be a
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very frustrating experience for members of the Oversight Board.
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I am a firm believer that the worst people to give power are those who
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want it.  The Oversight Board, as described so far, has the responsibility
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of keeping Sugar Labs running smoothly, but almost no power to decide the
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interesting issues.  This makes me very happy, as the Oversight Board is
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therefore most likely to attract people who are interested only in keeping
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Sugar Labs running, not pushing a particular personal agenda, even a
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technical agenda.  My hope is that people will be elected based on a
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history of being calm, focused, personable, and reasonable, not on the
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basis of any platform (they don't have the power to execute it) or
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technical knowledge (they can't use it).
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I would much rather keep the technical experts _out_ of governance until a
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technical decision must be made that requires domain-specific expert
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knowledge.  Most technical decisions should be made on the mailing lists
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anyway; only issues that must be decided in order for work to continue,
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and on which the community is otherwise deadlocked, should be escalated to
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a Decision Panel.  I expect the Oversight Board to be concerned almost
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exclusively with the mundane details of managing finances and
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partnerships, making sure the communications channels are open, etc.  I do
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not want the Oversight Board to be a Court of Last Resort.
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I still favor the presence of the Decision Panels section in the draft,
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but that's not surprising.  I see it as an easy lightweight system for
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moving political issues away from the Oversight Board.  I welcome other
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perspectives.
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--Ben
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'''On the other hand:'''
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Why would anyone volunteer for such service?  We'd get what it
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encourages: unmotivated people who don't really care, except for the
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political power of appointing people, and the *inevitable* recognition
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they get as part of the oversight board.  They won't have the respect of
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the community either; as written, board members can't serve on decision
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panels, and therefore can't make any of the "important decisions",
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presuming the board actually follows the bylaws and appoints a decision
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panel.  And it has a built in disincentive for creating committees and
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delegating (something we want to encourage, not discourage): the
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requirement that the board members act as secretaries, causing a yet
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larger time sink by board members.
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The board member can hide behind "the appointed committee" and absolve
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themselves of blame.
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So this separates authority from responsibility.  Anything controversial
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is by its nature something where each vote a board member makes can be
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held accountable for, and either recalled immediately or voted out at
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the next election, if appropriate.  Hopefully these votes occur very
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seldom; decisions should normally be being made below the board level,
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and the board only have to resolve disputes where the call is close.
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"The buck stops here" needs to be true for the board.
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It's hard enough to get people to do the grunt work to serve on boards
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in these projects.  You want the right people who are fully invested in
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that project's success.  We have to have some confidence that the
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electorate will elect sane people: I point to Gnome being sensible
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enough to *not* elect RMS to its board (he ran several years), and the
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fact that on the X.org board, we had trouble to get enough good
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candidates to get some of the people off the board who were *not*
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serving for the right reasons (in my opinion).
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--Jim
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== Membership ==
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I think that GNOME's membership criteria that you've borrowed here is a
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bit lower than I like. In Ubuntu, we use "significant and sustained"
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which basically boils down to having been around for at least a couple
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months and being able to get at least 2-3 endorsements from current
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members that say, "yeah, she's done quite a bit of good work." This is
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good because it makes membership more likely to be real stakeholders and
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also creates an incentive to long-term significant contributions.
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I also like the idea of automatic expiration each year. If folks can't
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be bothered to at least reply to an email once a year (you'd be surprised
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how often this happens in Ubuntu) they probably shouldn't be voting
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either.
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--Mako
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I don't mind having tougher criteria for developers, but unlike Gnome,
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I think we need some way to get participation from users, e.g.,
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classroom teachers in deployments, etc. To me, that is significant and
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sustained.
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--[[User:Walter|Walter]] 16:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
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Absolutely. There are lots of ways of contributing constructively and
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each should be recognized. I'm suggesting that there should be a common
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contribution threshold for membership -- whether it's software
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developers, content producers, teachers, whatever else, or any
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combination.
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--Mako
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== Other open details ==
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      o how the governance document is modified; what determines quorum for
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such actions
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      o how decisions are appealed
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      o how notice is given of decisions
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      o how do we adopt permanent governance regulations; as these currently
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are, they can at best be temporary until a membership exists and
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ratifies a more formal governance document....
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      o what to do about removing/recalling members/board members; it is the
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board that matters most here).
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      o how vacancies are filled
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      o limits on board membership by employer
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      o how money is disbursed.

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