Talk:Raspbian

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Testing on a RPi3 with a fresh install of Jessie. Installed sucrose and /usr/share/xsession/sugar.desktop looks fine, but not option to select Sugar Desktop when I try to login (no option of any sort). --Walter (talk) 08:33, 31 December 2016 (EST)

Found a panel for manually setting the desktop session. After logging out and logging back in, I got the color selector, gender selector, and a broken grade selector. Then everything switched back to the default desktop manager, but the Sugar cursor remained loaded :) Sugar is somewhere on the machine; but getting to it remains a challenge. --Walter (talk) 12:01, 31 December 2016 (EST)

Tried running Turtle Art from the shell and from the Education menu: Seg Fault. --Walter (talk) 08:33, 31 December 2016 (EST)

Started from scratch and got some unmet dependencies when trying to 'sudo apt install sucrose':

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo apt install sucrose
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
 You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 sonic-pi : Depends: libQt5printsupport5 but it is not installable
 sucrose : Depends: sugar-session
           Depends: python-carquinyol
           Depends: sugar-chat-activity
           Depends: sugar-browse-activity
           Depends: sugar-read-activity but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: sugar-log-activity
           Depends: sugar-write-activity but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: sugar-terminal-activity but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: sugar-pippy-activity but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: sugar-imageviewer-activity but it is not going to be installed
           Depends: sugar-jukebox-activity but it is not going to be installed
           Recommends: olpc-powerd but it is not going to be installed
           Recommends: ipython but it is not going to be installed
           Recommends: python-elements but it is not going to be installed
           Recommends: csound but it is not going to be installed
           Recommends: gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad but it is not going to be installed
           Recommends: gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly but it is not going to be installed
           Recommends: python-sugar-toolkit
           Recommends: python-sugar
           Recommends: gtk2-engines-sugar (>= 0.110)
           Recommends: sugar-calculate-activity but it is not going to be installed
 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

Ran:

sudo apt-get -f install
sudo apt install sucrose

Then:

echo sugar >> .xsession

Logged out and back in and Sugar is running.

Turtle works; Browse fails due to no module collabwrapper.

But it is a start :) --Walter (talk) 17:40, 31 December 2016 (EST)

Thanks for testing. It is a moving target; I didn't get what you saw. Retested today;
  • Browse fail to start is 848840 caused by missing file when Jonas added collabwrapper. A new release of Browse might help.
  • Physics fails to start, box2d_arm7 not present.
  • Write shows black screen. Since fixed in 842443 and abiword 3.0.2-2 arrived in Raspbian, exposing the flicker problem, see #4915.
  • Jukebox fails to start; the `import player` invokes the Python Image Library instead. Tracked at 554906 and I've since *avoided* the problem in c913a7b.
The cursor change is Sugar changing the settings for the user instead of maintaining separate settings for the user and Sugar combined. I've prototyped a fix with a split-brained GSettings backend.
These are all problems common to Debian, Ubuntu and Raspbian. Nothing specific to Raspbian or Raspberry Pi hardware. So if we can fix these problems in Debian they will be fixed consequently in Raspbian. --Quozl (talk) 23:22, 31 March 2017 (EDT)

testing with rdesktop (may not be relevant)

(Using 640x480)

  1. thumb drives are not shown in the journal, however you can see them using "df -h"
  2. cursor shows as white with a black background
  3. terminal "help" button is not working (may not be raspbian related, but just found it)
  4. When clicking view details in a journal entry (the right arrow) it shows nothing
  5. Right click in the journal sometimes works and sometimes doesn't

Here are the logs -- Ignacio (talk) 13:53, 3 January 2017 (EST)

Same things with rdesktop happen on Ubuntu and Debian, so it isn't a Raspbian thing. USB drives won't be shown because the rdesktop user is not in the local "seat" with authority. Cursor is some sort of problem with rdesktop. Journal problems are part of 0.110 and have been fixed since in git. --Quozl (talk) 23:12, 31 March 2017 (EDT)

Image of Sugar on Debian for Raspberry Pi

Moved to Debian/Raspberry Pi.