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Line 44: − <center>'''''This is a draft, and not a final report.'''''</center>+ − − ===Introduction=== − − This constitutes the report of the SoaS decision panel (DP), [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-September/008746.html convened by SLOB]. − − The structure of this report is: − − # Introduction (this section) − # Executive Summary − # Mandate − # Members − # Report on Questions 1-3 − # Conclusion − # Appendices − − − ===Executive Summary=== − − The Decision Panel was [[#Mandate|mandated]] to answer three questions. The Decision Panel's answers are below: − − Question 1: "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?" − − − Answer: [[#Question_1|TBD - see below for opinions]] − − − Question 2: "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?" − − Answer: [[#Question_2|TBD - see below for opinions]] − − − Question 3: "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?" − − Answer: [[#Question_3|TBD - see below for opinions]] − − In addition, [[#Mandate|the mandate]] allows the Decision Panel to raise and answer any other question the DP deems required to provide an answer to the original question: "Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?" (Question 0). − The Decision Panel has not raised any additional questions.+ − ===Mandate===+ − + − :"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:+ − + − + − + + + + − ===Members===+ − − * Sebastian Dziallas − * Luke Faraone − * Martin Dengler − * Bill Bogstad − * Faisal Khan − * Benjamin M. Schwartz − * Samuel Klein − * Sean Daly − * Tabitha Roder − * Caryl Bigenho − * Daniel Drake − * Abhishek Indoria − − − − ===Report on Questions 1-3=== − − − ====Question 1==== − − − Question 1: "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?" − − Answer: − − − {| border="1" − !Yes − !No − !Invalid − !Abstain − |- − | − # Yes. Without it Sugar Labs has nothing to encourage the use of or promote that is of direct use to anyone other then programmers or the people who assemble Linux distributions. [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000032.html counterpoint] − # Yes. We greatly appreciate the work of those who have contributed to SoaS Strawberry and Blueberry. We regard these products as valuable, critical distribution mechanism for Sugar, and we will do what we can to ensure their continued development. [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-September/008681.html (reference)] − | − # No, not now. SL is not now a full-service GNU/Linux distributor and being one is not in SL's [[Sugar Labs#Mission|mission statment]]; "[[What_is_Sugar%3F|Sugar learning platform]]" is *not* a GNU/Linux distribution. [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000056.html counterpoint] [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000057.html counter-counterpoint]. However many contributors volunteer to help with individual tasks thereof; and an official plan is part of a number of SugarLabs' members published plans. Sugar Labs is better off spending its scarce resources on the [[What_is_Sugar%3F|Sugar learning platform]]. Distribution work is is really hard and labour-intensive and being done by major distro vendors already (Debian, Fedora [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000168.html (reference)] − | − # Invalid question. An answer to this question is not needed for Sugar Labs' members to get on with their work, and the results from a decision panel will not have any effect [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-September/008751.html ref]. − | − # Undecided. The two sides of the argument don't seem to be speaking directly to one anothers' issue [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000175.html (reference)] [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000178.html counterpoint] − |} − − − ====Question 2==== − − − Question 2: "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?" − − Answer: − − {| border="1" − !Yes − !No − !Invalid − |- − | − # − | − # No. Sugar On a Stick, the Fedora-derived distribution, will be the endorsed distribution. − | − # Invalid question. An answer to this question is not needed for Sugar Labs' members to get on with their work, and the results from a decision panel will not have any effect [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-September/008751.html ref]. − |} − − − ====Question 3==== − − − Question 3: "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?" − − Answer: − − − {| border="1" − !Yes − !No − !Invalid − |- − | − # Yes. − | − # − | − # Invalid question. An answer to this question is not needed for Sugar Labs' members to get on with their work, and the results from a decision panel will not have any effect [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-September/008751.html ref]. − |} − − − ===Conclusion=== − − − − ===Appendicies=== − − − ====Votes / Recorded opinions==== − − − =====Question 1===== − − − {| border="1" − |+ Question 1: "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing − Sugar releases?" − ! Yes − ! No − ! Defer − ! Invalid − ! Undecided/Abstain − |- − | − # [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000100.html Sean Daly] − # [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000029.html Bill Bogstead] − # [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000149.html Abhishek Indoria] − | − # [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000028.html Martin Dengler] − # Tabitha Roder − # Caryl Bigenho − | − | − | − # Sebastian Dziallas − # Luke Faraone − # Faisal Khan − # Benjamin M. Schwartz − # Samuel Klein − # Daniel Drake − |} − − − =====Question 2===== − − {| border="1" − |+ Question 2: "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?" − ! For − ! Against − ! Defer − ! Invalid − ! Undecided/Abstain − |- − | − # [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000028.html Martin Dengler] − # Tabitha Roder − # Caryl Bigenho − | − # [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000149.html Abhishek Indoria] − | − | − | − # Sebastian Dziallas − # Luke Faraone − # Martin Dengler − # Bill Bogstad − # Faisal Khan − # Benjamin M. Schwartz − # Samuel Klein − # Daniel Drake − |} − − − =====Question 3===== − − {| border="1" − |+ Question 3: "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?" − ! For − ! Against − ! Defer − ! Invalid − ! Undecided/Abstain − |- − | − # [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000045.html Sean Daly] − # [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-October/000149.html Abhishek Indoria] − # Tabitha Roder − | − # [http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2009-September/000028.html Martin Dengler] − # Caryl Bigenho − | − | − | − # Bill Bogstad − # Sebastian Dziallas − # Luke Faraone − # Faisal Khan − # Benjamin M. Schwartz − # Samuel Klein − # Daniel Drake − |} − − ====Further ideas==== − − =====Potential naming conventions===== − * Sugar4CD/PC/F11 (Sugar, version 4, made for liveCD, runs on PCs, Fedora11 based) - example from Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho@hotmail.com> − * There has been much talk of whether we should name with different foods and animals. Types of sugar (sucrose, glucose) has been suggested due to its link to sustainability of life. − There still seems to be much sense in keeping it simple with SoaS keeping one name with a version release number and corresponding release name. − * Perhaps including the type of media in the name could be helpful, but with "sugar" themes. For example SD versions could be "Sugar Cookies," Live CD versions could be "Sugar Pies." That would make the above example "SugarPie4/PC/F11"(also from Caryl Bigenho) + + +
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==Origin==
==Overview==
A 12-person Sugar-on-a-Stick (SoaS) decision panel was appointed by a [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-09-25#Decision_Panel|September 25, 2009]] Oversight Board decision.
A 12-person Sugar-on-a-Stick (SoaS) decision panel was appointed by a [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-09-25#Decision_Panel|September 25, 2009]] Oversight Board decision.
The Oversight Board requested a final report, but none was received [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|by 2009-12-04]]. The Oversight Board then assumed responsibility for deciding the mandated questions (ibid.). A summary [[#Conclusion|is below]].
==Mandate==
==Mandate==
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:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:
:"Investigate the situation of how SoaS should be treated by Sugar Labs, and related questions, including answers to the following:
:* "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
:* <nowiki>[Question 1]</nowiki> "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
:* "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
:* <nowiki>[Question 2]</nowiki> "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
:* "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
:* <nowiki>[Question 3]</nowiki> "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
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}}
== Report ==
== Report ==
{{:Decision panels/SOAS/Report}}
== Conclusion ==
In the [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|absence]] of a final report the Oversight board decided [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|Question 1,]] [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Revisit_Motion_4_from_last_week|Question 2,]] and [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Resolve_outstanding_Sugar_on_a_Stick_decision_.28Q3.29|Question 3]]:
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:* <nowiki>[Question 1]</nowiki> "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
:* "Should Sugar Labs be a GNU/Linux distributor, rather than just an upstream producing Sugar releases?"
:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|No]]. SL wishes to spread the use of Sugar and consequently works with GNU/Linux distros to produce and offer downloadable versions. This work can include helping to promote distros, and hosting them.
:* "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
:* <nowiki>[Question 2]</nowiki> "Should SL be neutral about distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?"
:* "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Revisit_Motion_4_from_last_week|No.]] SL may promote one distribution in its marketing campaign, but encourages all GNU/Linux distributions to package and distribute Sugar, and if possible will assist with hosting and infrastructure.
:* <nowiki>[Question 3]</nowiki> "Should 'Sugar on a Stick' be a phrase that SL asks its community to avoid using unless they refer to the SoaS-Fedora distribution?"
:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-18#Resolve_outstanding_Sugar_on_a_Stick_decision_.28Q3.29|Yes.]] "Sugar on a Stick" should be reserved by Sugar Labs for use by the SoaS-Fedora distribution so that Sugar can be marketed effectively, until such time when a trademark policy, agreement, and process is put in place: SoaS will be the first project to go through that process.
:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
:* Any other question the Decision Panel deems required to provide an answer to the original question:"Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?"
:** Answer: [[Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-12-11#SoaS_DP|Sugar Labs' intent to promote Sugar as widely as possible]] means that SL will work with GNU/Linux distros to produce and offer downloadable versions. This work can include helping to promote distros, and hosting them.
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==Further ideas==
* discussion of potential naming conventions.
* discussion of ''how'' to support products such as SOAS, and what that means
* exploration of what it means to "produce a distribution", which some active contributors felt was a huge effort and others felt was already being done, with most effort happening upstream. Better agreement within the community about what is being done may help avoid distracting meta-debates about direction.
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