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** The question of "who tests Activities?" is somewhat related to the issue of making activities platform independent, similarly to firefox plugins (I will elaborate on it in the meeting). [[User:Marcopg]]

** The question of "who tests Activities?" is somewhat related to the issue of making activities platform independent, similarly to firefox plugins (I will elaborate on it in the meeting). [[User:Marcopg]]

** If we move activities testing upstream, how do we move tickets? If we don't move them, where should user oriented information be hosted?

* If we move activities testing upstream, how do we move tickets? If we don't move them, where should user oriented information be hosted?

*** (not very clear on this, and it's not strictly a testing issue but it certainly intersects with it). [[User:Marcopg]]

** (not very clear on this, and it's not strictly a testing issue but it certainly intersects with it). [[User:Marcopg]]

** We should report tickets upstream as much as possible, but how do we ensure downstream is able to track those which are interesting to them?

* We should report tickets upstream as much as possible, but how do we ensure downstream is able to track those which are interesting to them?

*** If OLPC misses a fix because it cares about because it's tracked only upstream we are going to be in troubles  :)  For the record: Greg suggestion: don't try too hard to solve the issue because it's largely an unsolved one in foss. [[User:Marcopg]]

** If OLPC misses a fix because it cares about because it's tracked only upstream we are going to be in troubles  :)  For the record: Greg suggestion: don't try too hard to solve the issue because it's largely an unsolved one in foss. [[User:Marcopg]]

*** The responsibility burden for this falls on downstream, in my opinion. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 07:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

** The responsibility burden for this falls on downstream, in my opinion. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 07:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

** How does a tester know a problem is very likely downstream?

* How does a tester know a problem is very likely downstream?

*** garycmartin just reported an hardware related issue to dev.sl.o, that's something we can certainly avoid with simple guidelines. Action item -> write down such guidelines! [[User:Marcopg]]

** garycmartin just reported an hardware related issue to dev.sl.o, that's something we can certainly avoid with simple guidelines. Action item -> write down such guidelines! [[User:Marcopg]]

*** This is a big question for me, because I think the "how do we ensure downstream is able to track those which are interesting to them?" problem is something that's downstream's problem, and downstream is currently me. ;) [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 07:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

** This is a big question for me, because I think the "how do we ensure downstream is able to track those which are interesting to them?" problem is something that's downstream's problem, and downstream is currently me. ;) [[User:Mchua|Mchua]] 07:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

** How can we manage expectations?

* How can we manage expectations?

*** It's going to be hard at the beginning, both for developers and testers. We need to manage expectations so that we don't make people upset. Worth considering a mailing list post explaining what is going on, what we are planning to do about it, and to please be patient while things settle down. Show the positive side of it! [[User:Marcopg]]

** It's going to be hard at the beginning, both for developers and testers. We need to manage expectations so that we don't make people upset. Worth considering a mailing list post explaining what is going on, what we are planning to do about it, and to please be patient while things settle down. Show the positive side of it! [[User:Marcopg]]

** How do we ensure that OLPC is comfortable with what we are doing?

* How do we ensure that OLPC is comfortable with what we are doing?

*** This matters because OLPC is currently Sugar's largest downstream user by far. I'll try to raise the topic at the internal OLPC QA meeting this coming Monday. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]]

** This matters because OLPC is currently Sugar's largest downstream user by far. I'll try to raise the topic at the internal OLPC QA meeting this coming Monday. [[User:Mchua|Mchua]]