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* [[User:bernie|Bernie Innocenti]]
* [[User:bernie|Bernie Innocenti]]
* [[User:Ignacio|Ignacio Rodríguez]]
* [[User:Chimosky|Chihurumnaya Ibiam]]


== Requesting a new mailing list ==
== Requesting a new mailing list ==
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It may take up to 48h to hear a response back, so please be patient!
It may take up to 48h to hear a response back, so please be patient!
== Notes ==
{| class="wikitable"
|-
!scope="row" | User
|{{Code|mailman}}
|-
|-
!scope="row" | Home
|{{Code|/opt/mailman}}
|-
!scope="row" | Daemon
|
{{Code|/etc/systemd/system/mailman3.service}}<br>
{{Code|/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service}}<br>
{{Code|/etc/systemd/system/uwsgi.service}}<br>
|-
!scope="row" | Logs
|
{{Code|/var/log/nginx}}<br>
{{Code|/opt/mailman/web/logs/*}}<br>
{{Code|/opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/*}}<br>
|-
!scope="row" | Config
|
{{Code|/etc/nginx/sites-available/mailman.sugarlabs.org}}<br>
{{Code|/etc/mailman3/*}}<br>
|-
!scope="row" | Ports
|
{{Code|443}} HTTP server<br>
{{Code|ss -tnlp}} View service ports<br>
|-
!scope="row" | Admin scripts
|
{{Code|/opt/mailman/mm/bin/}}<br>
|-
|}
== Sysadmin Recipes ==
== Sysadmin Recipes ==


=== Adding a new a mailing list ===
=== Adding a new a mailing list ===
* Login to mailman user.


* Create the list:
* Create the list:


  sudo newlist --urlhost=lists.sugarlabs.org --emailhost=lists.sugarlabs.org LISTNAME
  python3 create-list.py --list LISTNAME
 
 
Mailman3 has separate parts and the core communicates with a [https://docs.mailman3.org/projects/mailman/en/latest/src/mailman/rest/docs/rest.html REST API],
the script is aimed to make it easier to create a list, and can be viewed
to see how to authenticate to the API.
 


* Send additional instructions to list administrator
* Send additional instructions to list administrator
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  list is about. Please, notify systems@ if you change security or privacy
  list is about. Please, notify systems@ if you change security or privacy
  related settings.
  related settings.
=== Change virtual host of a list ===
withlist -l -r fix_url bolivia -u lists2.ole.org
=== Change a parameter on all lists ===
echo "nondigestable = True" >bar
for l in `list_lists -b`; do config_list -i bar -v $l ; done
rm bar
=== Disabling digests for all users ===
Create a nodigests.py with this content:
from Mailman import mm_cfg
def nodigests(m):
    for addr in m.getMembers():
        if m.getMemberOption(addr, mm_cfg.Digests) == True:
            print "turning off digests for " + addr
            m.setMemberOption(addr, mm_cfg.Digests, 0)
    m.Save()
    m.Unlock()
Then, execute:
withlist -l -r nodigests -a
=== Migrating lists from one host to another ===
To migrate lists from solarsail to sunjammer, I did the following:
* Lower TTL for lists.sugarlabs.org to 30 minutes
* Copy over config before cut-off:
  ssh solarsail
  cd /var/lib/mailman/lists/
  rsync -aP aslo bugs colombia community-news dextrose fourthgrademath gsoc iaep italia marketing slobs soas somosazucar sugar-desarrollo sugar-devel sugar-reports  systems systems-logs root@sunjammer:/var/lib/mailman/lists/
  cd /var/lib/mailman/archives/private
  rsync -aP aslo* bugs* colombia* community-news* dextrose* fourthgrademath* gsoc* iaep* italia* marketing* slobs* soas* somosazucar* sugar-desarrollo* sugar-devel* sugar-reports* systems* systems-logs* root@sunjammer:/var/lib/mailman/archives/private/
* Copy over the lists.sugarlabs.org bits from the Postfix configuration (<code>/etc/postfix/main.cf</code> and <code>/etc/postfix/transport</code>)
* Test admin pages and archives on the new site (hint: set the new IP for lists.sugarlabs.org in /etc/hosts)
* [[Sysadmin/Announcing_downtime|Announce downtime]] on all affected lists
* Stop mailman on solarsail
* Switch over DNS records (with default TTL values)


* Remove mailman transport map from solarail, leaving the relay, so that anything@lists.sugarlabs.org gets sent to sunjammer


* Restart mailman on solarsail


== See Also ==
== See Also ==

Revision as of 20:04, 23 January 2026

Hostnames

Hosted on

Machine/sunjammer

Administrative contact

  • For problems concerning a specific mailing-list, please contact the individual administrator reported on in the mailing-list summary page
  • Technical contact for Mailman and general sugarlabs.org email routing: postmaster AT sugarlabs DOT org

Sysadmins

For non-emergency calls, preferably send email to the administrative contact above.

Requesting a new mailing list

The best way to start a new mailing list is to begin a discussion on a related list that already exists, and once the discussion becomes active, to ask for a separate list for that topic or that sort of traffic.

When you have a critical mass of people regularly talking about the same topic, request a mailing list by emailing the following information to the administrative contact:

  1. The name you want for your mailing list, with alternative names if the first one is taken
  2. A description of the list, its purpose, and why it's needed (being able to say "we've been talking on this other list for a while, and the discussion has grown too big - see these archive links" is helpful)
  3. The name/email of the list admin, and of at least one other moderator (minimum one admin and one moderator)
  4. At least 10 names/emails of people who want to be the initial subscribers

It may take up to 48h to hear a response back, so please be patient!

Notes

User mailman
Home /opt/mailman
Daemon

/etc/systemd/system/mailman3.service
/etc/systemd/system/mailmanweb.service
/etc/systemd/system/uwsgi.service

Logs

/var/log/nginx
/opt/mailman/web/logs/*
/opt/mailman/mm/var/logs/*

Config

/etc/nginx/sites-available/mailman.sugarlabs.org
/etc/mailman3/*

Ports

443 HTTP server
ss -tnlp View service ports

Admin scripts

/opt/mailman/mm/bin/

Sysadmin Recipes

Adding a new a mailing list

  • Login to mailman user.
  • Create the list:
python3 create-list.py --list LISTNAME


Mailman3 has separate parts and the core communicates with a REST API, the script is aimed to make it easier to create a list, and can be viewed to see how to authenticate to the API.


  • Send additional instructions to list administrator
I created the new list LISTNAME@lists.sugarlabs.org.

You are the list admin, and should have received a welcome message
with your admin password. You can share this role with others, if
you wish, or nominate one or more moderators.

Feel free to make any configuration changes you need. In particular,
you may want to add a meaningful summary and description of what this
list is about. Please, notify systems@ if you change security or privacy
related settings.


See Also