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== Superuser needed? ==
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Shouldn't "Type: <code>zyx-liveinstaller</code>" be "Type: <code>sudo zyx-liveinstaller</code>"?  [[User:David Kergyl|David Kergyl]] 17:59, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
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== alternative instructions ==
 
== alternative instructions ==
 
[[Image:Zyx-banner.png|300px]]
 
[[Image:Zyx-banner.png|300px]]
  
ZyX-LiveInstaller allows you to install Sugar when it is already running from either a LiveUSB device or LiveCD media to a system or external disk. This results in what is considered a traditional operating system installation on disk (or USB-Stick/SD-Card).  
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ZyX-LiveInstaller allows you to install Sugar from either a LiveUSB device or LiveCD media to a system or external disk, in order to create a traditional operating system installation on disk (or removable media such as SD or USB storage devices).  
  
'''Note:''' this is ''not'' a method to create a Sugar-on-a-Stick (LiveUSB). Although you can install to an external USB drive/stick, resulting in an installation that similarly boots your system to the Sugar UI. The difference is that the resulting system is not a 'Live' system; it uses a normal filesystem instead of a compressed read-only filesystem and a read-write overlay.  
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'''Note:''' This is ''not'' a method for creating a Sugar-on-a-Stick (LiveUSB) image. Although you can install to an external USB drive/stick, resulting in an installation that similarly boots your system to the Sugar UI. The difference is that the resulting system is not a 'Live' system; it uses a normal filesystem instead of a compressed read-only filesystem and a read-write overlay.  
  
'''IMPORTANT WARNING:''' This is fairly software. It will overwrite entire partitions or disks -- ''as well as your bootloader'' -- during installation. It is currently intended only for users that are familiar with the risks and possible complications of installing a GNU/Linux distribution to system disk. If you need a dual-boot configuration, you will need to configure <code>grub</code> yourself.  
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'''IMPORTANT WARNING:''' This software will ''overwrite entire partitions or disks''—as well as your bootloader—during installation. It is ''currently'' intended only for users that are familiar with the risks and possible complications of installing a GNU/Linux distribution to system disk. If you need a dual-boot configuration, you will need to configure <code>grub</code> yourself.  
  
 
To use the ZyX-LiveInstaller:
 
To use the ZyX-LiveInstaller:
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:* Start the Terminal activity;
 
:* Start the Terminal activity;
 
:* Type: <code>zyx-liveinstaller</code>
 
:* Type: <code>zyx-liveinstaller</code>
:* Check that you have room on the target machine:
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:* Check that you have room on the target drive:
 
::* Run <code>gparted</code> from within ZyX-LiveInstaller
 
::* Run <code>gparted</code> from within ZyX-LiveInstaller
 
::*You will need at least a single partition for the root filesystem that is greater than 2GB. (Some disks labeled and sold as 2GB may not be quite large enough.)
 
::*You will need at least a single partition for the root filesystem that is greater than 2GB. (Some disks labeled and sold as 2GB may not be quite large enough.)
 
::*Optionally create a separate partition for the /boot filesystem, at least 42MB in size
 
::*Optionally create a separate partition for the /boot filesystem, at least 42MB in size
::* Optionally create a separate partition for swap space, typically 1 to 2 times the size of the RAM in your system. This will allow the use of hibernation (suspend-to-disk, via pm-hibernate command run from root terminal shell).
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::* Optionally create a separate partition for swap space, typically 1–2 times the size of the RAM in your system. This will allow the use of hibernation (suspend-to-disk, via pm-hibernate command run from root terminal shell).
::* Note: formatting in the partitioner is not required;
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::* Note: formatting the partitioner is not required; (does not work for VirtualBox use: /boot 200 ext2; / 3000 ext4; balance: linux-swap)
 
::* Exit the partitioner by hitting the X in the top corner of window.
 
::* Exit the partitioner by hitting the X in the top corner of window.
 
:* While still in Zyx-LiveInstaller:
 
:* While still in Zyx-LiveInstaller:
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* After installation completes, you may remove the LiveUSB or LiveCD, and continue using the newly installed system ''without rebooting''!  This means that anything done with the system before, during, or after installation persists into the installed system;
 
* After installation completes, you may remove the LiveUSB or LiveCD, and continue using the newly installed system ''without rebooting''!  This means that anything done with the system before, during, or after installation persists into the installed system;
 
For more information, see the upstream project website [http://filteredperception.org/smiley/projects/zyx-liveinstaller].
 
For more information, see the upstream project website [http://filteredperception.org/smiley/projects/zyx-liveinstaller].
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== Mirabelle Space Requirements -- Need 8GB USB drive? ==
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Tried to install as per instructions on 4GB USB drive but zyx-liveinstaller failed with the following (abbreviated) message:
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"*Installer backend error*... target root size 3341520Kb is less than live root size 4194304Kb"
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The important number is the 4GB!  Can't get a 4GB root on a 4GB target disk!
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Successfully installed on 8GB disk and Gparted confirmed that the root has 4.39GB used.  I did install a couple of extra activities, but it still seems one needs at least a 4GB partition for the root.
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Incidentally, Gparted reports only 28.23 MB used in /root after successful install.
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Should numbers on page be changed accordingly?

Latest revision as of 02:14, 4 June 2010

Superuser needed?

Shouldn't "Type: zyx-liveinstaller" be "Type: sudo zyx-liveinstaller"? David Kergyl 17:59, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

alternative instructions

Zyx-banner.png

ZyX-LiveInstaller allows you to install Sugar from either a LiveUSB device or LiveCD media to a system or external disk, in order to create a traditional operating system installation on disk (or removable media such as SD or USB storage devices).

Note: This is not a method for creating a Sugar-on-a-Stick (LiveUSB) image. Although you can install to an external USB drive/stick, resulting in an installation that similarly boots your system to the Sugar UI. The difference is that the resulting system is not a 'Live' system; it uses a normal filesystem instead of a compressed read-only filesystem and a read-write overlay.

IMPORTANT WARNING: This software will overwrite entire partitions or disks—as well as your bootloader—during installation. It is currently intended only for users that are familiar with the risks and possible complications of installing a GNU/Linux distribution to system disk. If you need a dual-boot configuration, you will need to configure grub yourself.

To use the ZyX-LiveInstaller:

  1. Boot your target computer with Sugar-on-a-Stick;
  2. Run ZyX-LiveInstaller:
  • Start the Terminal activity;
  • Type: zyx-liveinstaller
  • Check that you have room on the target drive:
  • Run gparted from within ZyX-LiveInstaller
  • You will need at least a single partition for the root filesystem that is greater than 2GB. (Some disks labeled and sold as 2GB may not be quite large enough.)
  • Optionally create a separate partition for the /boot filesystem, at least 42MB in size
  • Optionally create a separate partition for swap space, typically 1–2 times the size of the RAM in your system. This will allow the use of hibernation (suspend-to-disk, via pm-hibernate command run from root terminal shell).
  • Note: formatting the partitioner is not required; (does not work for VirtualBox use: /boot 200 ext2; / 3000 ext4; balance: linux-swap)
  • Exit the partitioner by hitting the X in the top corner of window.
  • While still in Zyx-LiveInstaller:
  • Read and follow the simple wizard, choosing destination volumes/partitions for root, boot, and swap.

Notes:

  • This is a destructive install: The contents of the disks or partitions you choose will be overwritten entirely;
  • During installation, you are free to use other activities;
  • After installation completes, you may remove the LiveUSB or LiveCD, and continue using the newly installed system without rebooting! This means that anything done with the system before, during, or after installation persists into the installed system;

For more information, see the upstream project website [1].

Mirabelle Space Requirements -- Need 8GB USB drive?

Tried to install as per instructions on 4GB USB drive but zyx-liveinstaller failed with the following (abbreviated) message:

"*Installer backend error*... target root size 3341520Kb is less than live root size 4194304Kb"

The important number is the 4GB! Can't get a 4GB root on a 4GB target disk!

Successfully installed on 8GB disk and Gparted confirmed that the root has 4.39GB used. I did install a couple of extra activities, but it still seems one needs at least a 4GB partition for the root.

Incidentally, Gparted reports only 28.23 MB used in /root after successful install.

Should numbers on page be changed accordingly?