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::: Consider customizing a page where the visitor reveals content of interest to them without suffering the loss of context that following a link to another page requires. Expandable frames and hover text or images are two possible techniques. See, for example, the show/hide of the Sugar Learners' Manual on this page. Extra design and care are required to achieve an effective composition and balance the available bandwidth. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 23:08, 28 October 2011 (EDT) | ::: Consider customizing a page where the visitor reveals content of interest to them without suffering the loss of context that following a link to another page requires. Expandable frames and hover text or images are two possible techniques. See, for example, the show/hide of the Sugar Learners' Manual on this page. Extra design and care are required to achieve an effective composition and balance the available bandwidth. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 23:08, 28 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
::::I like all those ideas. Another technique, two or more pages linked by back and forward arrows. The primary page is as fresh and dynamic as possible, picks up from the point of a new learner with no previous knowledge ... links off this page go only to the most useful pages for this user - avoids distraction. Subsequent pages will be useful to the new learner later and can link to more advanced exploration. I like web sites which help the new user get orientated fast. The show/hide technique (above) could be useful for a paragraph on configuration, which is vital on day 1, can be skipped over on subsequent visits, but is in a known place when required again.--[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 06:41, 29 October 2011 (EDT) | ::::I like all those ideas. Another technique, two or more pages linked by back and forward arrows. The primary page is as fresh and dynamic as possible, picks up from the point of a new learner with no previous knowledge ... links off this page go only to the most useful pages for this user - avoids distraction. Subsequent pages will be useful to the new learner later and can link to more advanced exploration. I like web sites which help the new user get orientated fast. The show/hide technique (above) could be useful for a paragraph on configuration, which is vital on day 1, can be skipped over on subsequent visits, but is in a known place when required again.--[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 06:41, 29 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
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| + | == Suggestion == | ||
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| + | *Page0 - this page. | ||
| + | :'''Forward Links''' to Getting Started from scratch | ||
| + | **Getting Started from scratch | ||
| + | ::New page, assumes no previous knowledge and no other support. Much content from existing Getting Started but fewer onward links. | ||
| + | ::'''Back Links''' to Page0, (just for development).'''Forward Links''' to Getting Started Explore. | ||
| + | ***Getting Started Explore | ||
| + | :::Landing page for new users, working box, perhaps classroom support. No assumed prior experience. Contains more onward links. | ||
| + | :::'''Back Links''' to Getting Started from scratch.'''Forward Links''' to Getting Started Getting Creative | ||
| + | ****Getting Started Getting Creative | ||
| + | ::::Still no assumed prior experience | ||
| + | ::::Might move to more advanced level by lower part of the page. | ||
| + | ::::If this and the next page are not too full, they may invite growth. | ||
| + | ::::'''Back Links''' to Getting Started Explore. '''Forward Links''' to Getting Started Getting Productive. | ||
| + | *****Getting Started Getting Productive | ||
| + | :::::Still no assumed prior experience. | ||
| + | :::::For instance might include setting keyboard shortcuts which even with no prior experience is a good thing to be doing early. | ||
| + | :::::'''Back Links''' to Getting Started Getting Creative. | ||
| + | If each page happens to fit 800x600 I see that as a benefit.--[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 10:57, 29 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
Revision as of 09:57, 29 October 2011
The page Sugar on a Stick/Explore introduces configuration, which is missing on this page.
- The entirety of the Explore page should probably be embedded in the Getting Started page. --Walter 19:11, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- I am not sure about this, but does getting started run at more than 1 level. Eg young new-learners, not so young, parents, teachers and organizations. I am aware the whole wiki supports an unusually wide cross section of users. It is a challenge to have a getting started page to pick up each group nicely and take them where they need to go. I like short well targeted pages.--Inkyfingers 22:40, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- Consider customizing a page where the visitor reveals content of interest to them without suffering the loss of context that following a link to another page requires. Expandable frames and hover text or images are two possible techniques. See, for example, the show/hide of the Sugar Learners' Manual on this page. Extra design and care are required to achieve an effective composition and balance the available bandwidth. --FGrose 23:08, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- I like all those ideas. Another technique, two or more pages linked by back and forward arrows. The primary page is as fresh and dynamic as possible, picks up from the point of a new learner with no previous knowledge ... links off this page go only to the most useful pages for this user - avoids distraction. Subsequent pages will be useful to the new learner later and can link to more advanced exploration. I like web sites which help the new user get orientated fast. The show/hide technique (above) could be useful for a paragraph on configuration, which is vital on day 1, can be skipped over on subsequent visits, but is in a known place when required again.--Inkyfingers 06:41, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
- Consider customizing a page where the visitor reveals content of interest to them without suffering the loss of context that following a link to another page requires. Expandable frames and hover text or images are two possible techniques. See, for example, the show/hide of the Sugar Learners' Manual on this page. Extra design and care are required to achieve an effective composition and balance the available bandwidth. --FGrose 23:08, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- I am not sure about this, but does getting started run at more than 1 level. Eg young new-learners, not so young, parents, teachers and organizations. I am aware the whole wiki supports an unusually wide cross section of users. It is a challenge to have a getting started page to pick up each group nicely and take them where they need to go. I like short well targeted pages.--Inkyfingers 22:40, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
Suggestion
- Page0 - this page.
- Forward Links to Getting Started from scratch
- Getting Started from scratch
- New page, assumes no previous knowledge and no other support. Much content from existing Getting Started but fewer onward links.
- Back Links to Page0, (just for development).Forward Links to Getting Started Explore.
- Getting Started Explore
- Landing page for new users, working box, perhaps classroom support. No assumed prior experience. Contains more onward links.
- Back Links to Getting Started from scratch.Forward Links to Getting Started Getting Creative
- Getting Started Getting Creative
- Still no assumed prior experience
- Might move to more advanced level by lower part of the page.
- If this and the next page are not too full, they may invite growth.
- Back Links to Getting Started Explore. Forward Links to Getting Started Getting Productive.
- Getting Started Getting Productive
- Still no assumed prior experience.
- For instance might include setting keyboard shortcuts which even with no prior experience is a good thing to be doing early.
- Back Links to Getting Started Getting Creative.
If each page happens to fit 800x600 I see that as a benefit.--Inkyfingers 10:57, 29 October 2011 (EDT)