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  you don't need to reinstall ... just run gptsync from the rEFIt menu
 
  you don't need to reinstall ... just run gptsync from the rEFIt menu
 
  just need to get your partitions synced up
 
  just need to get your partitions synced up
 
 
==testing os874 XO-1==
 
: 08/03/2011
 
===About my computer===
 
Build 874
 
Sugar 0.92.2
 
Firmware Q2E45
 
Wireless 5.110.22.p23
 
 
===Activities===
 
* Note Spiral f3 home arrangement if all activites are favorites
 
;key: *=not a favorite
 
speak 25
 
tamtamjam 56
 
tamtamedit 55
 
measure 32
 
*image viewer 17
 
browse 122.2
 
write 75
 
paint 34.1
 
moon 12
 
help 12
 
clock 6
 
chat 70
 
*tamtamsynth lab 55
 
scratch 19
 
memorize 36
 
ruler 8
 
*jukebox 21
 
distance 22
 
record 92.1
 
implode 10
 
*terminal 31
 
abacus 19
 
pippy 40
 
maze 9
 
tamtammini 58
 
calculate 37
 
etoys 113
 
*hellowworld 2
 
*log 24
 
fototoon 7
 
*read 90
 
turtle art 107
 
 
 
===Collaboration Tests===
 
====os874 on XO-1 and os873 on XO-1.5====
 
====os874 on XO-1 and git Soas-v5-Coconut (0.92.4) ====
 
::chat 70 has title displayed on 0.92.4 but not on 0.92.2
 
::connected users shown on joined Soas-v5 frame with correct names
 
:::No joined users on Frame of XO-1
 
:::Name displayed in chat is xxxx@jabber... form
 
 
====Chat 70====
 
:starts from either  XO-1 or XO-1.5
 
::Sharing works either way
 
::Colors OK
 
 
==testing os873 XO-1.5==
 
: Tests run with No entry in jabber line of CP
 
::Due to jabber.sugarlabs.org bugs using sugar 0.92.x
 
 
===About my computer===
 
Build 873
 
Sugar 0.92.2
 
Firmware Q3B13
 
Wireless 9.70.7.po
 
 
===Activities===
 
* Note Spiral f3 home arrangement
 
;key: *=not a favorite
 
speak 25
 
tamtamjam 56
 
turtle art 27
 
tamtamedit 55
 
Labyrinth 11
 
measure 32
 
image viewer 17*
 
words 4
 
write 75
 
stopwatch 9
 
paint 34.1
 
moon 12
 
helloworld 2*
 
clock 6
 
tamtamsynthlab 55*
 
wikipediaEN 26
 
scratch 19
 
memorize 36
 
ruler 8
 
jukebox 21*
 
distance 22
 
finance 3
 
infoslicer
 
record 92
 
wikipedia 26
 
physics 8
 
implode 10
 
fototoon 7
 
read*
 
abacus 19
 
pippy 40
 
maze 9
 
tamtammini 58
 
calculate
 
etoys 113
 
get books 7
 
help 12
 
terminal 31*
 
turtle art 107
 
browse 122.2
 
log 24*
 
irc 10
 
chat 70
 
 
===Collaboration===
 
: os873 on XO-1 and os873 on XO-1.5
 
 
====Chat 70====
 
*'''Wireless AP NO Jabber'''
 
:starts from either  XO-1 or XO-1.5
 
::Sharing works either way
 
::Title transfers
 
::Colors OK
 
 
*'''Ad-hoc Network'''
 
:XO-1 Mesh Network 1>AD hoc Network 1 ; AD hoc Network 6; AD hoc Network 11 '''no avitars
 
:XO-1.5 AD hoc 1  on >shows as 4th connection point on X0-1  after 2 min
 
::XO-1.5 Click on AD hoc 1 and see avitars?
 
:starts from either  XO-1 or XO-1.5
 
::Sharing works either way
 
::Title transfers
 
::Colors OK
 
*CONFUSING to get connection
 
 
==testing os871 XO-1.5==
 
:07/04/2011 reflashed with USB
 
;kernel panic; reboot with USB inserted
 
::Power off
 
::OK on reboot
 
===About my Computer===
 
Serial Number:SHC04900144
 
Build 871
 
sugar 0.92.2
 
firmware Q3B13
 
wireless firmware 9.70.7p0
 
;XO-1.5 ON LOAN FROM OLPC
 
::http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Dextrose2_testing_with_a_loaned_XO-1.5
 
 
===Testing===
 
*Start Browse before jabber connection:
 
:'''Starts on first try'''
 
*Connect to Apple Network Airport Extreme AP WEP ASCII
 
*Network ADD Jabber.sugarlab.org
 
:only see shared activities NO Avitars
 
::This may be a known bug in sugar 0.92.2 where the jabber gets overloaded with present and past Avitars from users. (I have seen >200 on screen) eventually only shared activities are displayed
 
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2845
 
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897
 
:::This does not occur in sugar 0.88.1
 
*>Download IRC-10.xo from Browse Home (OLPC Activity Library/Activities -ASLO?)
 
*Note: Failed to start on first try
 
: 15 sec grey until return to F3; works on 2nd try
 
*'''Activities only start on second try''' (get "failed to start" on first try)
 
: (This is related to a by a dbus timeout in Soasv4 and v5)
 
: it takes about 15 seconds for a response.Including exiting an activity.
 
:'''Suspect This delay with dbus timeout error seems to be related to jabber connection'''
 
*Start IRC-10.xo: Failed to start on first try; works on 2nd
 
: #sugar and #sugar-es (Default)
 
*Software Update
 
no updates found
 
:Activity Group:G1G1 Lite Activities for OLPC OS 11.2
 
::http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1
 
===Test with jabber turned off===
 
:Erase jabber entry in Networks
 
:activities still require 2nd try but no 10 sec grey screen delay
 
:'''Bug frame becomes stuck and will not retract''';
 
*'''Shutdown;reboot'''
 
:'''activities start on first try'''
 
: Frame retracts correctly
 
===http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11031===
 
:jabber.sugarlabs.org causes dbus errors and large delays in 0.92.x sugar when active
 
::https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2892
 
::https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897
 
 
===Activities===
 
;key: *=not a favorite
 
speak 25
 
tamtamjam 56
 
turtle art 27
 
tamtamedit 55
 
Labyrinth 11
 
measure 32
 
image viewer 17*
 
browse 122.2
 
words 4
 
stopwatch 9
 
write 74
 
paint 34
 
moon 12
 
help 12
 
clock 6
 
chat 70
 
tamtamsynthlab 55*
 
wikipediaEN 26
 
scratch 19
 
memorize 36
 
ruler 8
 
get books 7
 
distance 22
 
log 24*
 
infoslicer 9
 
record 92
 
wikipedia 26
 
physics 8
 
implode 10
 
jukebox 21*
 
terminal 31
 
abacus 19
 
pippy 40
 
maze 9
 
tamtammini 58
 
calculate 37
 
etoys 113
 
helloworld 2*
 
finance 3
 
fototoon 7
 
read 89*
 
turtle art 107
 
 
'''irc-10.xo''' (downloaded)
 
 
==testing os871 on G1G1 XO-1==
 
*:07/01/2011 reflashed with USB
 
===Retest:07/05/2011 reflashed with USB===
 
====Testing without jabber connection====
 
::CP/network line blank
 
*Browse starts on first try,,,
 
:Confirm that activities start on first try.
 
====Jabber Bugs====
 
Incomplete display of jabber.sugarlabs.org Neighborhood
 
https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897
 
Several Activities fail to launch in crowded jabber.sugarlabs.org Neighborhood
 
https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2892
 
jabber.sugarlabs.org causes dbus errors and large delays in 0.92.x sugar when active
 
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11031 (closed ericos see> 2892; 2897)
 
 
===About my Computer===
 
Build 871
 
sugar 0.92.2
 
firmware q2e45
 
wireless firmware 5.110.22.p23
 
*note very slow response
 
*'''Activities only start on second try''' (get "failed to start" on first try)
 
: (This is related to a by a dbus timeout in Soasv4 and v5)
 
: it takes about 15 seconds for a response.Including exiting an activity.
 
 
===Testing===
 
*Connect to Apple Network Airport Extreme AP WEP ASCII
 
*>Download IRC-10.xo from Browse Home (OLPC Activity Library/Activities -ASLO?)
 
:connects fine(on second try) to #sugar and #sugar-es(Default)
 
*>Connected to Jabber.sugarlabs.org
 
:only see shared activities NO Avitars
 
::This may be a known bug in sugar 0.92.2 where the jabber gets overloaded with present and past Avitars from users. (I have seen >200 on screen) eventually only shared activities are displayed
 
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2845
 
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2897
 
:::This does not occur in sugar 0.88.1
 
===Activities===
 
no updates found
 
:Activity Group:G1G1 Lite Activities for OLPC OS 11.2
 
;key: *=not a favorite
 
speak 25
 
tamtamjam 56
 
tamtamedit 55
 
measure 32
 
image viewer 17*
 
browse 122.2
 
write 74
 
paint 34
 
moon 12
 
help 12
 
clock 6
 
chat 70
 
tamtamsynthlab 55*
 
scratch 19
 
memorize 36
 
ruler 8
 
jukebox 21*
 
distance 22
 
record 92
 
implode 10
 
terminal 31*
 
abacus 19
 
pippy 40
 
maze 9
 
tamtammini 58
 
calculate 37
 
etoys 113
 
helloworld 2*
 
log 24*
 
fototoon 7
 
read 89*
 
turtle art 107
 
'''irc-10.xo''' (downloaded)
 

Revision as of 11:05, 7 July 2012

Split page

Please consider reorganizing this page to start with the current stable release of Fedora and the easiest way to run Sugar with it. Follow that by sections for alpha/beta versions of Fedora Sugar, a short section with links to SoaS, and then links to subpages for ARM, PPC, & older versions of Fedora Sugar. Guidance for GNOME on Fedora and other peripheral content should also probably be on subpages. --FGrose 11:45, 30 June 2012 (EDT)

Content needing organizing

Multiple Machine Caching with yum

store rpms in a cache for installation to multiple Computers

Keyring Password Explained

what do you have to enter when connecting to wlan, the keyring password or the wlan-password?
first i must enter the keyring password (root password here) and then i entered the wireless password
the keyring-password should not be your root password, it should be your users password so automatically unlocking could work
it may happen but during current session, after i reboot it appears again
ok, it is the keyring issue, assuming your distro has configured keyring correctly, changing the password should work
root pass?
change the keyring password to your users password
in settings ?
in seahorse
system settings?
as user (the login-keyring)
keyring is a way to store your "gnome" passwords
So, with one password (the keyring one), you "auto-type" the passwords it contains
if the keyring-password is your login password, it's automatically authenticated
keyring stores the passwords encrypted with the according keyring-password, and automatic unlocking works by getting the password through pam on login through gdm and then use  it to unencrypt the passwords - and that can only work if your login-password is the same as the keyring-password
why doesn't gnome 3 display "interactive dialogs" when applications ask for input
yes, also from gnome 3
when you run the shell script from nautilus, it doesn't display a dialog
"Enter passphrase for ..."
you can use zenity for that
try moving /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow/gnome-session-check-accelerated.desktop somewhere else
didn't know you needed anything additional for that.. was it always like that or did gnome 2 have that by default?
maybe thats the seahorse/keyring integration, that stuff has changed quite a bit in 3.0
but i thought you meant a more generic approach of showing dialogs from scripts
i'm actually doing the ssh-add from a process spawned by a pygtk app
if it is only this specific case, you should probably still use keyring/seahorse (whatever should do that now) as it would not be passing around passwords unencrypted between processes (at least afaik)
worked!
do you somehow run gdm with a different driver or some weird setup like that?
so it's not possible to get the old behavior, and it needs some additional code to get it to work with seahorse/keyring?
which distro is this?
fedora 15 beta
i've tested the same code on fedora 14 and linuxmint (both gnome 2)
when the ssh-add {key_path} process is spawned, the GUI dialog appears asking you to type in your passphrase
ssh-add succeeds, and them the rest of the pygtk app continues
it doesn't even care whether the key is password protected or anything
i think there needs a daemon to be running that doesn't get started by fedora
this happens both in standard and fallback mode
try launching seahorse-daemon


AutoStart

 ln -s /usr/share/applications/xxxx.desktop ~/.config/autostart/
 don't remember if I had to manually add it to the startup apps (run
 gnome-session-properties) or using a preference in xxxx itself, but I
 have it running on login on my laptop. The icon shows up in the
 notification tray - mouse to the lower right corner to bring it up -
 this is where all legacy tray icons will show up.

fix screensize in sugar-emulator

terminal:
su -
(password)
gedit /usr/share/applications/sugar-emulator.desktop
edit line 6: Exec=sugar-emulator -f
(see how to configure full screen)
save
Logout
login

show desktop as icon in favorites

add programs install "alacarte" 
open alacarte
make new
application
command "nautilus Desktop"
save 
Run from applications
Make favorite

key shortcuts

   * System (Windows) key: Switch between overview and desktop
   * Alt+F1: Switch between overview and desktop
   * Alt+F2: Pop up command dialog
   * Alt+Tab: Pop up window cycler
   * Alt+Shift+Tab: Cycle in reverse direction in the window cycler
   * Alt+`: Switch between windows of the same application in Alt+Tab
   * Ctrl+Alt+Tab: Pop up place cycler
   * Ctrl+Shift+Alt+R: Start and end screencast recording
   * Ctrl+Alt+D: Show desktop and raise windows back
   * Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down arrow: Switch between workspaces
   * Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Up/Down arrow: Move the current window to a different workspace 
Most keybindings can be viewed under the User Menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts 


List of Autostart programs when starting gnome-shell

   ALT F2 gnome-session-properties
move intro screens that are too large for 800x600
alt+f7 and then the arrow keys
alt+f8 Resize
shift and arrow keys
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262546
It's worth nothing, for Metacity >= 2.13.2, that if the window doesn't have a
minimum size hint larger than the screen then Metacity will now force such
windows to be onscreen (by shrinking and moving them as necessary).  If the
window has a minimum size hint larger than the screen, then the user can use
alt+left-click-and-drag (or alt+f7 and then the arrow keys) to move the window
upwards (including moving the titlebar offscreen) in order to get to the
forward button.  Yeah, that's just a workaround for windows that are too large,
but it may be helpful information for those waiting for the UI changes to make
the window usable on 800x600 resolutions.  :)
clip....
why not use a keyboard shortcut. the "next" button is marked "forward" so i hit alt + f and guess
what, i was able to successfully install the program.

Reload shell ALT+F2 r (reload)

use to recover Applications lists if they go missing and after alacarte edits

http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet

How to show user pictures on the GDM LOGIN screen
Click "my account" on the top panel lets me edit the picture, and
adding a picture will show it on the GDM login screen.

If you hold down Alt, a 'Shut Down' option appears in place of suspend.

Alt+Tab switches between windows

hot corner = upper left switches between shell and running applications
Alt+F2 allows entering a command to launch an application.
      the Shell simply always behaves so there's exactly one empty workspace.
      So when you start a session you have one workspace.
      As soon as you run something it goes into that workspace and
      you get a second empty workspace. As soon as you put any app into that
      empty workspace, a new empty workspace is created. If you remove
      everything from any workspace, it will disappear, so there's still only
      one empty workspace at the bottom of the list. So, there's never any
      need to manually add a new workspace. Pretty neat system.

GNOME 3 is not expected to work in virtualized environments

      I've just installed F15 alpha in a virtualbox machine and at the first boot I 
      get a gnome 3 error explaining that it can't be fully initialised because 3D is 
      not supported.
      GNOME3 is not expected to work in virtualized environments where
      hardware accelerated graphics are not available.
      From http://gnome3.org/faq.html ...
       The GNOME 3 desktop does require hardware accelerated graphics
       in order to provide a cutting-edge experience however, and the
       complete GNOME 3 experience will only be available on computers
       capable of this. Do not worry though: GNOME 3 will come complete
       with a fallback interface which will provide an excellent
       experience in the absence of hardware acceleration, and which
       incorporates many of the improvements that can be found in GNOME
       3.
       -------------------------------------------
      test Digest, Vol 85, Issue 60, Message: 7
       It's kind of a definition issue. GNOME *Shell* requires acceleration.
       But technically GNOME 3 does not; the fallback interface is still
       considered to be 'GNOME 3'. So you do need acceleration to get the Shell
       interface that's the 'big new thing' in GNOME 3, but still, if you don't
       have acceleration and you get the fallback interface instead, what
       you're running is still GNOME 3. Just GNOME 3's fallback interface.
       Adam Williamson 
      Message: 8
       In any case, VBox with 3d accelleration enables and 128MB for video memory
       is not sufficient for GShell.  (VBox 4.0.4)
      Message: 13
       Also, on that last note, we should clarify that right now Shell doesn't
       work even in virtualized environments where accelerated graphics *are*
       available, e.g. VirtualBox with appropriate hardware and drivers. In
       theory it should be possible to make this work, but in practice it
       currently doesn't.
       So there's two angles we can approach this from; make Shell run with
       software GL, or fix up Shell to work with virtualized graphics
       acceleration passthrough. But it's not at all guaranteed that we'll
       manage either in time for f15. 
       The minimum memory required is 1GB, due to anaconda changes.
       When you see "populate_rootfs" in the panic, it's caused by that.

Fedora-16-vs-macbook-pro-or-air

click this link ^
Add features to Anaconda to aid installation on Apple computers https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503149

MacPro and f15 Boot

  • Clips from #fedora-qa 04/04/2011 MacPro and f15 Boot
I have a macbook pro and have run fedora 14 on it with great success. 15 alpha, on the other hand, is not going well. The installation comes saying something about "installing   *** on EFI ***"
which i just dismiss/ignore, but when i try to boot after installation has completed, it wont. Just saying something like "no file found". Should i do something
special to install 15 alpha on a EFI system?
Yeah... you may have to run gptsync (I think that's what it's called)
no, you don't need to install again, but you will need to gain access to the installed partitions from another system (whether it's a Fedora live image)
referring to the gptsync that is provided be rEFIt
I formatted the partition to make space for a working distro. i have refit installed and my mbp boots to that at startup by default. that didnt make 15 alpha work. 14 did though
you may need to enter the boot partition tool from the rEFIt menu and when it asks to run gptsync, say yes
 okay. I will try to install again later and do that. Thank you so far. Will get back to you guys
I belive anytime partitioning changes occur on a macbook, you do need to run gptsync.  Since the EFI implementation by apple isn't fully compliant with the standard, extra  steps  are required
you don't need to reinstall ... just run gptsync from the rEFIt menu
just need to get your partitions synced up