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::::I like all those ideas. Another technique, two or more pages linked by back and forward arrows. The primary page is as fresh and dynamic as possible, picks up from the point of a new learner with no previous knowledge ... links off this page go only to the most useful pages for this user - avoids distraction. Subsequent pages will be useful to the new learner later and can link to more advanced exploration. I like web sites which help the new user get orientated fast. The show/hide technique (above) could be useful for a paragraph on configuration, which is vital on day 1, can be skipped over on subsequent visits, but is in a known place when required again.--[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 06:41, 29 October 2011 (EDT) | ::::I like all those ideas. Another technique, two or more pages linked by back and forward arrows. The primary page is as fresh and dynamic as possible, picks up from the point of a new learner with no previous knowledge ... links off this page go only to the most useful pages for this user - avoids distraction. Subsequent pages will be useful to the new learner later and can link to more advanced exploration. I like web sites which help the new user get orientated fast. The show/hide technique (above) could be useful for a paragraph on configuration, which is vital on day 1, can be skipped over on subsequent visits, but is in a known place when required again.--[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 06:41, 29 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
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| − | Linked Pages | + | Linked Pages. |
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| − | + | :'''Forward Links''' to [[Getting Started Explore(1)]] | |
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If each page happens to fit 800x600 I see that as a benefit.Edit--[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 14:51, 29 October 2011 (EDT) | If each page happens to fit 800x600 I see that as a benefit.Edit--[[User:Inkyfingers|Inkyfingers]] 14:51, 29 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
: That sounds promising. The actual content in each section will need time to flesh out. This would best be done in http://wiki-devel.sugarlabs.org/go/Getting_Started, and the product can be copied back here, when ready. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 14:55, 29 October 2011 (EDT) | : That sounds promising. The actual content in each section will need time to flesh out. This would best be done in http://wiki-devel.sugarlabs.org/go/Getting_Started, and the product can be copied back here, when ready. --[[User:FGrose|FGrose]] 14:55, 29 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
Revision as of 11:04, 11 November 2011
The page Sugar on a Stick/Explore introduces configuration, which is missing on this page.
- The entirety of the Explore page should probably be embedded in the Getting Started page. --Walter 19:11, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- I am not sure about this, but does getting started run at more than 1 level. Eg young new-learners, not so young, parents, teachers and organizations. I am aware the whole wiki supports an unusually wide cross section of users. It is a challenge to have a getting started page to pick up each group nicely and take them where they need to go. I like short well targeted pages.--Inkyfingers 22:40, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- Consider customizing a page where the visitor reveals content of interest to them without suffering the loss of context that following a link to another page requires. Expandable frames and hover text or images are two possible techniques. See, for example, the show/hide of the Sugar Learners' Manual on this page. Extra design and care are required to achieve an effective composition and balance the available bandwidth. --FGrose 23:08, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- I like all those ideas. Another technique, two or more pages linked by back and forward arrows. The primary page is as fresh and dynamic as possible, picks up from the point of a new learner with no previous knowledge ... links off this page go only to the most useful pages for this user - avoids distraction. Subsequent pages will be useful to the new learner later and can link to more advanced exploration. I like web sites which help the new user get orientated fast. The show/hide technique (above) could be useful for a paragraph on configuration, which is vital on day 1, can be skipped over on subsequent visits, but is in a known place when required again.--Inkyfingers 06:41, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
- Consider customizing a page where the visitor reveals content of interest to them without suffering the loss of context that following a link to another page requires. Expandable frames and hover text or images are two possible techniques. See, for example, the show/hide of the Sugar Learners' Manual on this page. Extra design and care are required to achieve an effective composition and balance the available bandwidth. --FGrose 23:08, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- I am not sure about this, but does getting started run at more than 1 level. Eg young new-learners, not so young, parents, teachers and organizations. I am aware the whole wiki supports an unusually wide cross section of users. It is a challenge to have a getting started page to pick up each group nicely and take them where they need to go. I like short well targeted pages.--Inkyfingers 22:40, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
Modified Suggestion
Linked Pages.
- shorter version of existing page.
- Forward Links to Getting Started Explore(1)
- Just needs to be viewable in Sugar Activity, Browse!
- New page, assumes no previous knowledge and no other support.
- Back Links to Getting Started(0)
If each page happens to fit 800x600 I see that as a benefit.Edit--Inkyfingers 14:51, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
- That sounds promising. The actual content in each section will need time to flesh out. This would best be done in http://wiki-devel.sugarlabs.org/go/Getting_Started, and the product can be copied back here, when ready. --FGrose 14:55, 29 October 2011 (EDT)