Difference between revisions of "User:Dennis Daniels"
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Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/ | Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/ | ||
+ | Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing. | ||
+ | http://www.sugarlabs.org/ | ||
+ | irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar | ||
=ongoing issues= | =ongoing issues= | ||
+ | *no obvious save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened) | ||
+ | *no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys) | ||
*ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain | *ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain | ||
*-pippy doesn't load examples | *-pippy doesn't load examples | ||
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*-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together' | *-announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together' | ||
*-control over edits to shared docs? | *-control over edits to shared docs? | ||
+ | *Pippy doesn't load examples | ||
==tags== | ==tags== | ||
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*scratch | *scratch | ||
*cartoonbuilder | *cartoonbuilder | ||
+ | *help activity | ||
==links== | ==links== | ||
<code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code> | <code> irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar </code> |
Revision as of 12:47, 14 September 2009
Teacher. I want to reproduce something like I did here.
Ck out the project here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Sugar project has great promise in helping build schools where students are evaluated on performance rather than testing.
http://www.sugarlabs.org/
irc://irc.freenode.net#sugar
ongoing issues
- no obvious save/commit button or hot key (UI makes no change to indicate save has happened)
- no mouse control or button to activate frames or home view (ctrl +shift doesn't allow for use of Sugar hot keys)
- ctrl + shift in emulator is a real pain
- -pippy doesn't load examples
- -no indication in the UI that a save has taken place
- -copy and paste out of the emulator does not work
- -can't name chats
- -no indication in the UI to let me know if someone is sharing/editing with me (?)
- -announcements to neighborhood to indicate 'let's play/work together'
- -control over edits to shared docs?
- Pippy doesn't load examples
tags
sugar linux olpc education screencast collaboration ubuntu jhbuild
don't work at all
- scratch
- cartoonbuilder
- help activity
links
- p8 is short for private chat
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test
One tester's attempt at installing SoaS
testing machines
- Compaq TC4400
- 4 gigs Ram
- dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
- unnecessary after 17aug jhbuild DISPLAY=:0 ./sugar-jhbuild run
- dual boot XP and edubuntu 9.04
jhbuild
One tester's jhbuild experience 23Aug9 ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run
dgd> this worked right out of the box: ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild run <silbe> dgd: great!
<dgd> silbe, yes! very good news!
<silbe> dgd: i still wonder why the DISPLAY=:0 changed anything for you
<silbe> dgd: but it's more important that it works now - reproducible, i hope :)
<dgd> silbe is this a better command ./sugar-jhbuild update ; ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck ;./sugar-jhbuild build ; ./sugar-jhbuild run
<silbe> dgd: i wouldn't recommend updating before every run
<dgd> silbe, may I ask why?
<dgd> and does the build command help/hurt?
<silbe> dgd: and if you chain depscheck in there, you can't read it's output (it won't do anything by itself, it just tells you to install packages)
<dgd> not before every run of course! I understand that... but once a day if I want the latest/greatest/most broken ;)
<silbe> dgd: it's hard to reproduce bugs if you update in the middle of your session :)
videos
Goal: Test Sugar on a stick. Get screencasts working so that I can begin to document Sugar for proof that it'll work (for me). Ultimately want to be installing Sugar or something like it in schools and NPOs.
part I This is after messing with the BIOS for a few minutes. Unfortunately, most teachers wouldn't know how to do this. A WUBI like dual boot option at the beginning of startup might be a better option for the Aunt Tillies of the world.
part II This is where I figure out that F1 is the network view key. Thanks to the friendly people at the IRC!
part III F1 to see network view.
part IV This is probably where everything starts to go wrong with the install. Habit of downloading updates I believe is what broke Sugar on a Stick. I was trying to get RecordMyDesktop to work... which I did... but there doesn't appear to be any way to play .flv or .ogv or .swf in the default install package of Sugar on a stick. Not acceptable IMHO for a piece of software that's supposed to work in a school.
part V
Sugar on a stick has seized. You can see what happens when stuff almost stops working entirely. Browser, IRC, writer are all dead. Far right hand corner to try and shutdown... no joy there.
part VI
Trying to copy error messages from the terminal. No joy. The activities have seized.
Trying to get edubuntu with sugar sweetener
Bitter sweet and no joy with 9.04
and no joy sugar-emulator--200
notes
Evaluating Sugar for rollout on thin and fat clients in local schools.
Here is a link to the videos with the bugs I've encountered while trying to get Sugaronastick to work on my HP/Compaq TC4400
videos
pages I watch
Using Moodle as an Activity Host
How to make screencasts on Sugar
How to add other applications as Activities i.e. Firefox, VLC, RecordMyDesktop, Ktype, etc.